tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post678781176926140440..comments2023-06-09T11:22:23.475+01:00Comments on FUC51: Ian Brown, Peter Hook and "pink faces in faded Stone Island"FUC51http://www.blogger.com/profile/12650288108399791591noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-18652363940023635252010-07-18T00:59:19.369+01:002010-07-18T00:59:19.369+01:00I'm a 51 year-old Yank from LA (oops, there go...I'm a 51 year-old Yank from LA (oops, there goes all my cred I reckon) chiming in here. Being from LA I think we know a thing or two about having musical histories hanging over us.<br /><br />In practice I don't see it happening over here. Someone like, say, Silversun Pickups wasn't weighed down with any "New Doors" expectations.<br /><br />I do go to see an older band on occasion when warranted, but for the most part I'm the same way I've been for over 30 years - I'm all about the new. I was lucky to see one of Section 25's last gigs before Larry Cassidy passed and then over the following months in the same venue I saw acts like LA's own Flying Lotus and Brooklyn's excellent School Of Seven Bells, just to use one example.<br /><br />In fact, one of my favorite new acts is a young Mancunian bloke - Casual Violence. Very modern twist on harder Techno. He's brilliant - check out his SoundCloud tracks/sets:<br /><br />http://soundcloud.com/Casual_Violence<br /><br />I don't exactly see A Guy Called Gerald's shadow - or Graeme Park's, or anyone's - looming over this kid.<br /><br />I was in Manchester in 2006 and loved it. I revere its past but I don't think it should ever overshadow the present. In the end it's the kids banging out good tunes that push things forward, innit?<br /><br />I don't see why the old and the new can't coexist peacefully.Riot Nrrrd™https://www.blogger.com/profile/02212962473714662793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-2788702597380754982010-06-16T11:43:16.160+01:002010-06-16T11:43:16.160+01:00This is lazy journalism. Rather than spend several...This is lazy journalism. Rather than spend several weeks extensively researching his subject matter and interviewing scores of witnesses and experts and thus earning the thousands of pounds he got paid, I suspect the writer wrote this while asleep. Because I'm an expert at this sort of thing. Writing and that.FUC51https://www.blogger.com/profile/12650288108399791591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-59274346105563485752010-06-12T16:43:37.673+01:002010-06-12T16:43:37.673+01:00@Adventure Baby
I'm really, really confused a...@Adventure Baby<br /><br />I'm really, really confused as to how you can say that "It's so obvious that Rob Hyde is behind this blog" and yet admit that you've never spoken to him and have only a cursory idea as to who he is?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-12895141180482527122010-06-12T14:55:04.918+01:002010-06-12T14:55:04.918+01:00Peter hook reminds me of that 80's football du...Peter hook reminds me of that 80's football dude in Napoleon Dynamite. If only hooky had a time machine, oh he does, fac251.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-50369135513910176542010-06-11T10:05:29.588+01:002010-06-11T10:05:29.588+01:00@adventurebaby
Posting comments slagging off some...@adventurebaby<br /><br />Posting comments slagging off someone you admit never having spoken to seems a little odd. You seem to have taken quite a strong dislike to this Hyde fellow for some reason, but I don't see how posting your negative comments here helps anyone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-27211628317196031712010-06-10T19:55:05.556+01:002010-06-10T19:55:05.556+01:00'RoManctic' hahahahaha. What a wanker, wha...'RoManctic' hahahahaha. What a wanker, what an absolute wanker!!!Lawrence Williamsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-66716010249677450162010-06-10T19:03:07.030+01:002010-06-10T19:03:07.030+01:00@adventurebaby
> I've heard plenty of peop...@adventurebaby <br />> I've heard plenty of people comment that he was Chorlton's answer to Nathan Barley<br />> but other than that it was mainly negative stuff.<br /><br />> other than that<br /><br />Well futile.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-32381627116876363612010-06-10T16:23:10.968+01:002010-06-10T16:23:10.968+01:00Of course you're right, good post - is nostalg...Of course you're right, good post - is nostalgia a bad thing? No - as we say in the article, everyone wants the Stones to play Satisfaction. <br /><br />Buring the past down completely is a stupid idea. <br /><br />The point of this blog (the sole point, the whole reason of being) - is railing against a particular kind of Manc nostalgia. Yes, the Unabombers play old records. Yes, everyone on at TWP isn't 20 years old and fresh out of the box. But at least they're interesting. <br /><br />Despite putting 'retro' acts on as you put it, you still can't put your finger on them. <br /><br />Whereas with everything FAC, roManctic and so on, not only can you put your finger on it you can also write 2000 words on it right off the bat. The same 2000 words. every time. It's dull. It's stifling. It's why we're here.FUC51https://www.blogger.com/profile/12650288108399791591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-58959723852988652872010-06-10T15:46:14.779+01:002010-06-10T15:46:14.779+01:00I read the Guardian Guide piece with interest.
Yo...I read the Guardian Guide piece with interest.<br /><br />Your general hypothesis is that Mancunian music culture should stop wallowing in a nostalgia for the post-punk to Madchester era, and should look to the future, instead of being dominated by a "bloke-led, fortysomething appreciation of music from 20 years ago".<br /><br />You then cite The Unabombers as "genuinely interesting", before praising The Warehouse Project's booking policy as being "consistently strong and innovative".<br /><br />Let's just pause there for reflection. <br /><br />The Unabombers play house music (around 25 years old), techno (marginally older than house music), rap (30 years old), disco (35 years old), and funk (older). Forgive me, but I'm struggling with the idea that a pair of forty-something DJs playing music that originated in the 1980s is "genuinely interesting".<br /><br />Next up: The Warehouse Project. Let's check the line-ups for 2009 for this innovative series of events, and cherry pick a few of the big names. Justin Robertson, Eric Prydz, Goldie, Sasha & Digweed, Aphex Twin, Ronnie Size, Richie Hawtin, DJ Sneak, Fatboy Slim, the list is endless. With the exception of La Roux, I couldn't really see anyone who wasn't middle aged or male. Now I've not a problem with being middle aged and male (I am both), but the idea that TWP is somehow innovative is farcical. It's a big rave, modeled on the big raves of 20 years ago. And the music played is invariably based on dance music originating from 20 years ago.<br /><br />So basically, Manchester should stop wallowing in nostalgia for one of the most significant developments in popular music history (Factory/Hacienda/Madchester), one that was driven by mancunian culture, and start wallowing in nostalgia for US-originated house music and warehouse raves. Thanks, but I've been there, done that. Rave is all played out now, it got stupidly mainstream (Eric Prydz FFS) and all house and techno music produced in the last 10 years just retreads the work published in the previous 10 years. You Fuc51 lot are as nostalgic as the rest of them, but can't admit it.Shadowplaynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-43959441273165386692010-06-10T10:30:13.609+01:002010-06-10T10:30:13.609+01:00Adventure Baby, is this you?
http://www.iasb2b.co...Adventure Baby, is this you? <br />http://www.iasb2b.com/contact<br /><br />You look like a fucking penis.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-10921010490657892502010-06-09T22:47:21.390+01:002010-06-09T22:47:21.390+01:00I must protest... I posted a comment about Rob ...I must protest... I posted a comment about Rob 'snide' Hyde on here and it wasnt approved. Ive never actually spoken to him. I've heard plenty of people comment that he was Chorlton's answer to Nathan Barley but other than that it was mainly negative stuff. He's the kind of late thirties fuckwit you see on a BMX in the Northern Quarter dressed 15 years his junior. Im pretty sure he lives in Shoreditch now. He used to tell people he was the the first man in Manchester to drink Absinthe and the last person to take methadrone before it was outlawed. Last seen organising 'illegal' water fights in Hyde Park. What a wanker.Adventure Babynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-47687991737555822332010-06-09T22:08:54.136+01:002010-06-09T22:08:54.136+01:00Everything old is shit! Logan's Run had it rig...Everything old is shit! Logan's Run had it right!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-89170184506140547162010-06-09T18:41:11.559+01:002010-06-09T18:41:11.559+01:00Look forward to seeing you all outside the Hardroc...Look forward to seeing you all outside the Hardrock with your placards.<br /><br />Down with Hendrix.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-32867382265358041472010-06-09T15:42:52.772+01:002010-06-09T15:42:52.772+01:00Who the fuck is Rob Hyde?Who the fuck is Rob Hyde?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-86822157185571002702010-06-09T10:51:12.251+01:002010-06-09T10:51:12.251+01:00Nish clish and bang,Nish clish and bang,Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-54000945330025083462010-06-08T14:04:14.385+01:002010-06-08T14:04:14.385+01:00Hi Adventure Baby - flattering, ta.
If it helps, ...Hi Adventure Baby - flattering, ta. <br />If it helps, I have no idea who you are. You're a right tedious prickstain if your posts on here are anything to go by though. speak soon. RobRobnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-54468429624773046282010-06-08T13:27:18.558+01:002010-06-08T13:27:18.558+01:00It's so obvious that Rob Hyde is behind this b...It's so obvious that Rob Hyde is behind this blog - even though he also posts as himself (good plan, yeah). Although he's now based in London (left town cos nobody likes him) he surely is the ultimate Chorlton knob.Adventure Babynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-75947125697673227482010-06-08T10:24:56.720+01:002010-06-08T10:24:56.720+01:00As someone who spends more time than is healthy th...As someone who spends more time than is healthy thinking about the past, I'd like to point out that the people who are saying the Fall are some kind of nostalgia act are talking shite. <br /><br />If you think they sound the same now as when they first started, you need to get your ears syringed. They're a constantly evolving band - sorry, group - with a constantly evolving sound. Please save your vitriol for the people who deserve it.undeletedhttp://undeleted.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-35346236744386000262010-06-08T08:28:39.654+01:002010-06-08T08:28:39.654+01:00I LOVE NORTHSIDE.....shit did I say that out loud ...I LOVE NORTHSIDE.....shit did I say that out loud !!!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-42276241519216296702010-06-08T08:18:35.192+01:002010-06-08T08:18:35.192+01:00A few things:
1. The Fall is no nostalgia trip de...A few things:<br /><br />1. The Fall is no nostalgia trip despite 'older people' liking them, they're always playing new material and moving forwards not back. Their continued existance does not undermine this fact.<br /><br />2. The Adventure Babies were just about the shittest Factory signing, and there were quite a few contenders for this crown. One of the reasons Factory turned shit after '88 (no one will make a movie of this period).<br /><br />3. As for 'new' Manchester bands, are there any that really matter at the moment? The best current bands come from elsewhere. This of course may change, we're waiting.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-45471882924503036942010-06-07T14:26:55.739+01:002010-06-07T14:26:55.739+01:00OOOOOOH FUC51 YOUR BLOG RILES ME UP SO MUCH!!
I W...OOOOOOH FUC51 YOUR BLOG RILES ME UP SO MUCH!!<br /><br />I WAS BORN IN MANCHESTER!!! LS LOWRY PAINTED THE AFTERBIRTH!!! GRAHAM NASH SANG AT MY CHRISTENING!!!! BET GILROY IS MY NAN!!! GREATER MANCHESTER WAS MY IDEA!!!!<br /><br />AM I THE ONLY REAL MANCUNIAN LEFT? PROBABLY!<br /><br />CAN I STOP READING AND COMMENTING ON THIS BLOG? NO!!! I DON'T KNOW WHY??!! I'M SO ANGRY AT BLOGS!Fuc Fuc Fuc Fuc Fuc Fuc51http://www.facebook.com/pages/Fuc-Fuc-Fuc-Fuc-Fuc-Fuc-51/119279308102845?ref=tsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-85507627561731257582010-06-07T10:50:45.955+01:002010-06-07T10:50:45.955+01:00Exclamation marks are a bit like laughing at your ...Exclamation marks are a bit like laughing at your own joke! <br /><br />We don't have to give you an alternative to the Ian Brown gig, that's not the point - have you even read the blog?FUC51https://www.blogger.com/profile/12650288108399791591noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-10854587123177404332010-06-07T10:30:32.337+01:002010-06-07T10:30:32.337+01:00Seeing The Fall is ALWAYS a nostalgia trip....They...Seeing The Fall is ALWAYS a nostalgia trip....They played at Fac251 recently...your favourite venue was half filled with the oldest crowd you ever see at a Manchester gig. A real dad's crowd. Their sound has not changed in thirty years. Giving the greying fans what they want.<br /><br />Apart from that this 'elevated pub debate' is just that. A sad old man mumbling into his pint glass. Of course the London Guardian print you. They want to beat Manchester with a stick and ignore the many great young bands in the city that you ignore/don't know about. You still think The Fall is a new band!<br /><br />Let's hear your alternative to the Ian Brown gig? We dare you to tell us what new bands are going on? We dare you to tell us about all the great new nights in town? Or don't you know any! Do you stay in spending hours looking yourself up on the internet thrilled that you have managed to get only 500 'fwends' on Twitter!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-31196417912280798352010-06-07T02:46:58.061+01:002010-06-07T02:46:58.061+01:00@adventurebaby
Seriously. You want a refund?! How...@adventurebaby<br /><br />Seriously. You want a refund?! How about we call it quits for the amount of time ANYONE spent reading the dog shit where you basically spent 500+ words banging on about THE DAY YOU WENT TO WHITBY:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/92qZj3<br /><br />Holy shit. What EARTH SHATTERING stuff.<br /><br />And to the doubters.. You should really check out the 600+ words where our intrepid misadventurebaby spends his entire Sunday afternoon admitting to everyone on Twitter that his ENTIRE PERSONA consists basically of nothing more than manipulating a fancy word for a fucking Egg Sandwich. http://bit.ly/cz0Ofr<br /><br />In fairness, we all know you're angle: The Adventure Babies are infamous for being "the last band ever signed by Factory". That makes it provable by SCIENCE and GRAPHS: they're the SHITTEST band ever signed by Factory.<br /><br />You're living your life so far up your own pASSt that you're clearly part of the problem, not part of the solution. Your input on this blog is less than invalid.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5715778029485971130.post-70654130516259151752010-06-06T18:02:24.000+01:002010-06-06T18:02:24.000+01:00Ha, even though you've posted anonymously abov...Ha, even though you've posted anonymously above Elliott I can spot your dick-handed internet parlance anywhere.Rob Hydenoreply@blogger.com